vendredi 8 août 2014

Continuation Part 10: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito















Mod InfoAs the thread has become lengthy once again, this is a continuation from Part 9. For further reference, see also Part 8, Part 7, Part 6, Part 5, Part 4, Part 3, Part 2, and Part 1.

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Originally Posted by Machiavelli (Post 10155797)

An axiom is an axiom, not a contention.

I am saying your deduction was patently false and illogical. On the other hand, what I say does not fall into the dicothomies of your "logic".

And I am saying precisely what I am saying - and have always said btw -that is DNA itself, taken alone, is not evidence (and in fact a discussion about alleles and DNA quality should be of Limited interest). Evidence is a logical concept not a physical finding. A date can be attributed to DNA finding, indeed; but it cannot be deduced by the finding of DNA material itself.

You need information of other kind. Might include crossing with other findings but I guess that in order to deduce a date you need information from other parameters of reality.



Obviously the bra clasp finding is not just DNA material, like any DNA evidence it's something that entails much more information than just the identity of the profile. The piece of information is tightly bound to a context. We know a lot about this subject, who he is, how many times she entered the room on what dates how many traces he left the tapistry of other evidence etc. The information connected to this piece is huge. And the most important is the absence of a plausible contamination path within it, the lack of an alternative probable explanation.




Part of the surrounding information is that we have only the word of an incompetent liar that there ever was anything on the clasp in the first place. Stefanoni claimed to have conducted an unrepeatable test knowing that in due course all traces of her deceit would be erased. You yourself explained that, Mschiavelli, when you told us all data arising from such tests must be destroyed by law. The discussion of exhibits 36B and 165B is unreal IMO. There is no evidence that either bore any relevant forensic traces.




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